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>> your "new day" starts right now. >> your "new day" starts right -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning. welcome to "new day." the malaysian government set to release the first report of disappearance of flight 370 any moment. the families of those on board have been demanding to see these findings for weeks. they are hoping to get some answerses about the fate of their loved ones. cnn aviation analyst richard quest is here. . we also have will ripley live from kuala lumpur. we're going to get to them as soon as the report is released. we are expecting it any moment now. we have another story breaking right now. severe weather. it's just wreaking havoc for millions along the eastern coast of the united states. especially the north east is getting pounded right now. >> it just won't quit if gulf coast is also getting some of the worst of it. pensacola, florida, making all the wrong kind of history this morning. record rainfall.
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enough to sweep away parts of homes overnight. also overnight, a suspected gas explosion caused part of a jail in pensacola to collapse. that incident killing two inmates, injuring more than 100. it's unclear though if the blast is connected to the severe weather. let's get to ed lavandera. hopefully you're starting to get a better idea of just what happened. >> good morning. here the crews are waiting for the sun to come up. the jail and part of the green structure on the build that you see that exploded last night. it was a dangerous situation and deadly. breaking news overnight. day four of a catastrophic storm system in the southeast is now barreling up the eastern seaboard threatening millions more. officials have issued flood warnings from florida to new york with six inches of rain predicted in some parts of the northeast. city streets are already submerged. in maryland several thousand gallons of water rushed into a town 20 miles south of baltimore
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after a breach in the dam. in baltimore the deluge so heavy that it caused a massive landslide on one roadway sending a half dozen cars tumbling into a revere. in the southeast, an explosion caused a roof to collapse in a county jail in the florida panhandle, injuring hundreds of inmays. it's not known if flooding in the area played a role yet. you can hear the roar of the violent flood waters on wednesday spawned by nearly 20 incheses of rainfall in only 24 hours. >> in an hour everything just started gushing. >> reporter: flooding over five feet in some areas forcing hundreds of rescues. in mobile, alabama, a dramatic moment as flood waters trapped one man, barely able to cling to a tree before he's rescued. the town of orange beach, alabama, almost completely flooded. local marina now under water. and in pensacola, florida, the
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torrential rains went over a scenic highway, sending cars plummeting into a ditch. >> i twoentd one home where the foundation was gone. >> reporter: leaving entire neighborhoods in the city inundated. >> i've lived here two 20 years. i've never seen this happen anywhere in the city like this. >> reporter: and. this is a closer look of the jail here in pensacola that exploded last night. you can see the structural damage from the force of that blast. and officials here trying to figure out the cause, chris. that building did take on extensive t water in the flooding. the flood t waters have receded. they're trying to figure out if that flooding is what caused this gas leak and this explosion last night. chris? >> they're going to have to check for cracks above and below to see if the building maintained its integrity. you just heard ed mention that dam break in maryland that was forcing hundreds of people to evacuate overnight. so let's get to janet with our cnn affiliate wjla.
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she has details. >> reporter: the rain has stopped for now but it's too little too late for what's going on here. the current situation. take a look behind me. this is route one in laurel. look at the water levels here. this has been going on for the past several hours. i also want you to see right across the street there's a car dealership here. you see the cars parked. and that should give you an idea of how high these water levels are. a little over the halfway mark on those tires. evacuations currently under way because of this. everyone in the surrounding area is being asked to leave over 100 residents are already being sheltered at the robert j. community center. hundreds more are expected. but i want to explain why this is going on. it is due to the rainfall but it's indirectly. officials say they were forced to open the dam because of the rainfall and the levels. and so all seven gates are open indefinitely. evacuations are mandatory. it is not an option. of course, it is for the
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residents' safety. we will follow this story as it developss. back to you. let's turn to another story breaking. toronto's embattled mayor rob ford is now taking time off from his job and re-election campaign to seek additional treatment for alcohol abuse. this comes just after reports of a new video surfaced that all e allegedly shows ford using crack cocaine. we have two developments live in ottawa. what do we know this time, paula? >> kate, what have we ever known here? i think many supporters, even his lawyer saying last night, look, they wish he had said this months ago, and rob ford finally uttered those words that everyone wanted to hear, i need help. calling it one of the most difficult times in his life, embattled toronto mayor rob ford says he is taking a break from his re-election campaign. this comes after the toronto
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globe reporting to have seen a new video allegedly showing the mayor smoking crack cocaine from a copper colored pipe. the publication saying the video was shot this past saturday in fords's sister's apartment and that they can't verify the substance was, in fact, crack. in may of last year cellphone video was released appearing to show ford smoking crack we cocaine which he at the time denied and later conceded. >> yes, i have smoked crack cocaine. >> reporter: this morning his opponents, outraged. >> for the good of the city i call on mayor ford to resign from office as mayor. >> reporter: mayor ford released a statement saying in part, i have tried to deal with these issues by myself over the past year. i know that i need professional help, and i am now 100% committed to getting myself right. his attorney told cnn ford is taking a leave immediately for substance abuse problems. also in comments to "the globe" he questioned the authenticity of the video and the motivation behind it.
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in march ford was recorded stumbling and swearing outside toronto city hall, and back in january ford admitted to a, quote, minor setback after this rant surfaced. he insisted he had a small amount of to drink but had not taken any drugs. >> now, canadian media saying that they have seen partz of this new video. none of it has been released. at this point, kate, even his lawyer saying, look, he needs help. he's taking some time out to deal with what are clearly some very serious personal issues. michaela? >> another dramatic chapter in the life of rob ford. let's look at more of your headlines. the simmering tensions in ukraine threatening to come to a boil. russia's calling on kiev to halt militaryistic statements after ukraine's acting president declared his country's military was put on full combat readiness.
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ukraine's leader making a stunning acknowledgement wednesday saying pro-russian militants have taken control of much of the eastern chunk of ukraine. in virginia, federal investigators are raising to find out what caused a train to jump its track in downtown lynchburg. several cars burst into flames. thousands of gallons of crude oil were dumped into the james river. clean-up crew rsz scrambling to contain the damage. some 50,000 gallons of oil are unaccounted for. thankfully no injuries were reported, but the incident has safety experts calling for greater oversight. flight departures expected to be back to normal this morning. out west after a technical glitch for several airport toss ground the airplanes. f,aa sayses there was a malfunction at a radar center north of los angeles. it afri affected los angeles, phoenix, and salt lake city. no word of what it caused the radar problem. of course, there's the ripple effect. >> technology.
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>> air travel today? >> a lot of questions this morning but at least we have one answer. we now know how quickly the nba owners will meet to decide the fate of donald sterling. they will meet today, in just a few hours. and they will decide if the clippers owner should be forced to sell. sterling was just banned for life and fined $2.5 million. that's the max he could get, because of his racist comments. there appears to be no shortage of suitors for the franchise but the big question is will donald sterling give up the clippers or is he going to fight it? for more on that let's get to cnn's stephanie elam. >> i am banning mr. sterling for life. >> reporter: now that nba commissioner adam silver has ousted donald sterling from the league, the question is, will the clippers owner put up a fight to keep the team. >> donald sterling to me is not going down without a fight. >> reporter: sterling disgraced after his racist rant went public told fox sports that the team is not for sale.
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but according to the nba's constitution, if 3/4 of the owners agree that he has to go, sterling could be forced to sell. silver pledging to do everything in his power to ensure that happens saying he pecks to get the backing he needs. more than 20 teams stating they support silver's harsh punishment but it's not yet clear if those public positions would translate into votes. and sterling does have the right to try to convince the other nba owners to side with him. >> any owner who decides to side with donald sterling in this is a fool and in the court of public opinion he will just as guilty as sterling. >> reporter: all-star trio is already waiting in wings ready to pay big bucks for a contender in the league. a spokesperson for oprah winfrey says she's talking to entertainment mogul david geffen and software billionaire larry ellison and a possible joint bid. peaked interest in boxers floyd mayweather and oscar de la hoya.
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what about sterling's family? his wife was at the game but only after asking for and getting the green light from head coach doc rivers. >> this ruling applies specifically to donald sterling and donald sterling's conduct only. >> reporter: the nba says no decisions have been made but the player's association telling yahoo! sports it won't accept any sterling as an owner. >> the nba once they get the 3/4 vote, they are in charge of this franchise and they decide who gets to buy whoond doesn't. i have zero doubt that the nba is going to prevent anyone from the sterling family from controlling this franchise. >> reporter: stephanie elam, cnn, los angeles. >> how long will this legal battle drag out? we'll have to see. >> yeah. it's a little confusing. the standard for why they can make him sell. >> never happened. >> the reason why the make him sell is fuzzy in this. we have a document here, beautiful read if you want to look through it. but how he will test that
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process is what the question is. >> uh-huh. let's take a break. coming up next on n"new day," we're wait for a first look now at a preliminary report expected to be released any moment by malaysian investigators on the disappearance of flight 370. it's been a long awaited report. families have been demanding it. is it telling us anything we don't already know? our experts will break it down. plus, they have never seen rain like this in pensacola, florida. wait until you see what life is like in the sunshine state. the mayor will join us with details about how bad it is and what they fear comes next.
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one pill. you decide. prevacid. ♪ 24 hour welcome back to "new day." we are anticipating the release of a long-awaited report on the disappearance of flight 370. now, the malaysian government is agreeing to make it public this morning, so let's turn to cnn's richard quest who has been covering the story since day one. and very well, i might add. now, we have to wait on it obviously to get the details but there are some things that we can expect to see. >> right. the very basics of the report. this is a report that is required by icao, international civil aviation organization. it has to be presented within 30
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days. they just about made that deadline. now, what would we expect this report to say? you want to real basics. you want the who, the when, and the where. >> those are the details. the absolute basics that this report needs to do. now, once you've done -- once you've short of ticked off the who, what sort of plane was it, where was it flying to and who was flying it and when was it flying. those are the details. thereafter, you can move into an entire arena of possibilities because at its basic, for example, the united states, when it does a preliminary report, the ntsb, it's just three pages long. it is literally the who, what, when, where, and why -- not the why. the who, what, and where. you can put more information in. so for instance, we may want to know what happened at this particular point when the plane was flying and it did its turn
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back and which route did it take. they may tell us that. they may not. >> do they know? >> we'll find out when the report comes out half an hour from now. >> what would be the rational for not putting obvious disclosures into this first report? >> the reason why you might keep the report extremely brief is you really don't want to give too many details away because you're not sure of those details. but i'm going to give you an example of where we have seen pretty different types of reports. where we have seen them. let's take, for example, in the case of air france 447. now, in air france 447 the report ran through 128 pages. in 32, 53 pages. you can do large pages if you so
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wish or you can choose to make them three to four. >> known data or completeness? is there a lot of stuff in this that's just paperwork? >> you would expect to find out the plane, the route, the details of what time it departed, which route it left. you're looking as if to say -- tell me something i don't know. >> no, no, no, it's not that. but there's something curious. a big function of this if i'm hearing you right is motivation of those putting out the report. and the idea that, well, you may not put out some details because you're not certain of them, okay, but what if you just don't know details or what if you do know things and for some reason, see, that's the suspicion here is they may know things and they're not saying those things. >> right. that is not the function of the icao preliminary report. the function of this report is known facts. and the rationale and the annex 13 under the icao treaty, manual of accident investigation, is
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that after several weeks you know certain things and those certain things can be released publicly. what i think is perhaps a little bit worrying here is, first of all, the malaysians didn't tell us that they sent this report. we had to pull it out of them. secondly, they've made such a deal about releasing it. this should have just been released when it was sent. >> you were generous. you said the period is 30 days and they just about made it. >> my understanding, my understanding is they were given leeway. and quite right, too, because they had such an enormous task on their hands. i can -- look, if this report, when it come out, is only five pages long or four pages long, i can make an argument that says, i can understand why because they're too busy trying to find the plane. they've got a blank sheet of paper what do they know exactly? i feel i can put it down as one screen what they know, right? other than the obvious and kind of, you know, boring details of
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the plane and all of those other things. why this actually happened and why this other stuff put into the report should be very thin. >> yes. but will be the detail, we're looking for detail here about after this last known point of contact what did they know as the plane did this. >> whatthat's what we're lookin for. who saw it as it went over malaysia. what did they do about it? what happened at this last point of contact? did vietnam notice it? did the controller at malaysia notice it? that's what you're looking to find out. and if they know details about this, we know this from air france 447, we got chapter and verse on what the air traffic controllers did. if you know it here are they going to tell us it now? >> why do they get to control the report? why wouldn't you have someone issuing a report like this
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checking on the actions on this body as opposed to allowing the body to dictate the completeness of their own work? >> that happens everywhere. that's like saying when the ntsb does a report who polices the ntsb? the bea in france, somebody has to present the report and it's the investigating authority of the state of occurrence or state of registry. >> it's just how it is. >> it is. >> so we look for woord to getting it. i'm morest sbred in what's not in the report. what it seems they don't know or what they speculated about that they shouldn't have. >> i can tell you one thing. from my visit to malaysia, there is is no great single fact out there that is not known. there is no hidden secret that's under the carpet that i believe that everybody is saying, pst, don't tell anybody about that. there are things they don't want to talk about but it's not a big secret. >> richard quest, thank you very much. we will be back with you soon. kate? coming up next on "new day," about two feet of rain fell in pensacola, florida, in just over
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24 hours. record flooding now producing some streets to rubble or making them look like lakes. we're going to talk to the city's may yr about how they are dealing with all of this this morning. plus, he's an owner in exile. that's for sure. will donald sterling fade away or will he fight back against the nba's efforts to force a sale of the l.a. clippers? a prominent sports attorney is here to give us his take. eat are acidic. t most of the time people are shocked when we show them where they're getting the acid, and what those acids can do to the enamel. there's only so much enamel on a tooth, and everybody needs to do something about it now if they want to preserve their teeth. i recommend pronamel because it helps strengthen the tooth and makes it more resistant to acid breakdown. we want to be healthy and strong through the course of our life, and by using pronamel every day, just simply using it as your toothpaste, you know you will have that peace of mind.
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a new volatile phase. the president publicly admitting the government lost control of two key regions. they seized symbolic buildings in more an a dozen towns and indust cities. let's get the latest from our senior international correspondent arwa damon in d donetsk. >> one of those key cities where we are right now in donetsk there was a rally here earlier where you did not see a single ukrainian flag. instead, people chant for russia, chanting that they want a referendum and absolutely no indication of authority coming from kiev. at the same time, in lieu hangs, the other key city, now under the control of the pro-russian camp there were even sandbagged fighting positions that had been set up in the corridors. plans of moving ahead there to hold a referendum as well.
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despite all of the talk from the central government of wanting to launch the so-called antitechnology operation on the ground in these sar use key locations. there is absolutely no indication whatsoever what kiev has any sort of authority or that it can take any sort of measures to try to regain any semblance of control over the rapidly disintegrating situation. >> arwa damon, thank you for that latest there in ukraine. meanwhile, back at home, serious damage being caused by all sorts of bad weather across the east coast. hundreds of people have been evacuated in laurel, maryland, after a dam opened up releasing thousands of gallons of water. in pensacola, largely under water after a storm of epic proportions. the weather could be responsible for a deadly gas explosion at a local jail. one woman was killed by flood waters yesterday. we're go to talk about the damage. the mayor of pensacola will be joining us on "new day" in a few minutes. meanwhile, the winds have died
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down. mandatory evacuations have been now lifted for over 1600 homes in the foothills east of los angeles. wildfire in the areas has burned over 1,000 acres. families in the northern neighborhoods are still being urged to evacuate voluntarily. since winds are still too high to fight the fire from the air and we certainly know firefighters have their work cut out for them. there's a red flag warning in effect yesterday. gusts up to 80 miles an hour, chris. a lot of concern there in east of los angeles. we'll keep an eye on that for you. >>s there's no bigger enemy to fire than wind and obviously that's been a big factor there. now, today is a big day. nba will be one step closer to pushing donald sterling out of the league. ten-member committee of owners is set to hold aen cofrens. on call today together to discuss the next steps in removing sterling as an owner. is it going to put up a fight? the answer will be yes, if anything is to be expected here. so what will happen here? jeffrey kessler joins us.
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sports law attorney, partner at the firm of winston and strawn, llp. you know the documents. you're the right guy to talk to. i'm going to represent sterling's interest in this. just to help people kind of follow along with the process. all right? the first question is, can you do this? you represent the owners. can you do this to me in the first place? can you hold a vote and see whether or not i have to sell my franchise? >> well, the constitution and bylaws says they can hold the vote. they have to bring a charge. he gets to respond to the charge and there's a hearing. it all happens supposedly within 20 days under the constitution and then they make a decision with the vote. that's colorly in the document. >> it gets heavy here because it's why. why can you do this? it says in the constitution for violations of article 13. article 13, i read it. there are several reasons given here. six, seven, eight reasons. none of them seem to fall under
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the category of what we're talking about here. it's all about not paying dues, not doing the right things as an owner from a fiduciary, financial capacity. none of this about morality, none of this about behavior, there's none of that of what we we often see in player contracts. what are you going to see i violated? >> there are at least two provisions that i think the league is going to use. one has to do with violating any of the rules, regulations, agreements of the nba. somewhere in the nba there's a rule of regulation that says you cannot engage in racist comments, behavior, in this league. they have that handle. secondly, they have a provision about violating agreements with adversary affect the interests of the nba. >> violating agreements that adversary affect the interest of the nba. what does that mean? >> it means you do something bad in violation and agreement with
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the league and they can take this vote. it's a very, very broad prescription. so you don't need necessarily the specific who can anticipate this? who would ever think that somebody would express these types of views in this way. >> their behavior off the court is as relevant as what they do on the court. it's a growing part of the understanding of the contracts between players and management but it isn't in heerks i would argue, it's not in here for a reason. you can't judge me on this level. >> actually the rules about what the league can do for players are much more limited than what they can do for owners. owners are members of their club. they voluntarily join it. they agree to these restrictions. they are set to one set of rules. players have a bargaining agreement which and the owner doesn't have the same standard. >> you make an interesting point
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that will come as a surprise to in many people. what's the presumption? money matters. but in this situation it's more onerous for donald sterling when he walks in this room. this hearing is not a very fair forum. it's done by a board of governors who is motivated against him. the rules of evidence do not apply. he can have a counsel but it doesn't matter because the arbitrator is a governor. the commissioner of the nba can be involved and you know he doesn't like sterling. it's set up against him here even though it's called a hearing. fair? >> i wouldn't say it's fair. it's the hearing he agreed to. he agreed to subject himself, all the owners do, to a vote of their peers. they agree to these procedure p. in fact, in the constitution it says when you agree to this the vote is final and you waive your right to go to court. again, very different from the players. the players would have a right to an arbitrator.
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>> i waive it for any reason even if it doesn't fall within the bounds of the contract, undue burden being placed on me, it's way too fuzzy? if i fight on those grounds can i beat my own contract? >> the language says you waive it for any reason. there is an exception. the exception is legal exception, not in the constitution. if he claims an antitrust violation you can't waive antitrust rights. that's the law. however, you have to an antitrust claim. just because you have a right to file doesn't mean you have a claim. >> antitrust would mean what? >> well, his problem is he would try to claim, if he filed the antitrust, that there is some restriction illegally on competition. it's very hard to see how there's any restriction on competition here. this is replacing a very foul owner selling a team to another owner. same competition. so i don't think there is an antitrust claim. >> his only defense is going to be to go to other owners and say
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it's me this time. next time it could be you. you want me out, that's fine, but let me do it my way because this is a real slippery slope. >> he might say that but i will be stunned if the owners did not back the commissioner, if the owners do not back their players on this. there would be an open revolt among the whole community, sponsors, fans, players, if the owners did not go through and decide this. >> you don't know who votes and how. >> i think the vote is not going to be close. we all see. it won't matter. >> if you're an owner, would you want it to be an open vote? >> i wouldn't care because i would be happy to tell the world how i voted. >> this is some interesting stuff. and it's great to have insight into it because for so many it's a mystery. we don't know what's going to happen and how you do. thanks for telling us on "new day." pleasure. kate? coming up next on "new day," pensacola, florida, slammed by record rainfall destroying
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homes, forcing residents from their homes, to their rooftops even. we're going to talk with pensacola's mayor to see how the community is coping this morning. also ahead, the much anticipated initial report on flight 370. what did the malaysian government find and what do families of the passengers say? we're going to hear from the partner of an american passenger coming up. ♪ ♪ make every day, her day with a full menu of appetizers and entrées crafted with care and designed to delight. fancy feast. love served daily.
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breaking this morning. severe weather affecting millions along all along the east coast and northeast is really getting pounded at this hour. parts of the tri-state area reeling with people waking up to extreme flooding. it has not stopped raining overnight. may be getting a bit of a brief pause at the moment. indra petersons is in howard beach queens in an area hit particularly hard overnight. indra, what have you been seeing? >> really sun believable this morning, kate. when you talk about four or five everythinges of rain in one day, talking about severe flooding. just look at what residents are waking up to this morning. they're seeing several feet of water. you can see some of the residents coming, trying to get out of their homes this morning. here's the concern though. after talking to people in this region we heard this is actually the waters that have receded. i want to show you what is just right behind oh me on the right. what we're hearing is that really a lot of this is the sewage water that got flooded and then now drifted down this hill right in front of their
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homes. a lot of people are dealing with about two feet of this sewage lying in their basements of their homes this morning. that is the concern. unfortunately we're still talking about more rain expected on the way. definitely not a good situation when you have flood warns across the entire area. still dealing with the flash flood and watches out there. i'm in a worm froarm front. unfortunately the break is not going to be the case. we still have the cold front to get to. heavier rain expected between 11:00 and 4:00 p.m. this evening which means areases that look like this when you talk about all of this flooding on the ground means only more sewage and more city run-off is expected to build up in front of residents' homes. a lot of streets are impassable. more rain, one to two inches. not as much as we saw yesterday, kate. either way definitely not something anyone wants to see today. >> indra, thanks for the update here in new york. let's head to another area
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really hard hit overnight. the powerful rainfall has led to historic flooding in florida, in con poens co pensacola alone. overnight apparent gas explosion ripped through the county jail in the city, causing a deadly partial building collapse. let's get the latest from the mayor of pensacola, ashton hayward. thank you for joining us this morning. >> good morning, kate. how are you? >> doing better than the town of pensacola is fairing at the moment. let me ask you about the apparents gas explosion at the county jail. not clear from what i've seen yet if it is weather related but what are you hearing? >> yeah, what i'm hearing right now, i'm getting the details as we speak. they're coming in. i understand there's over 600 inmates here and over 100 folks had to go to the local hospitals here. and there's a potential of two deaths right now. i am getting the details and i've heard the same thing that
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it was maybe a gas explosion. so i'm getting the details right now. >> any concerns where the inmates are? i assume everyone has been cleared out of the jail even though it's a partial building collap collapse. where are all the inmates? >>inmates are setting up a temporary jail as we speak. some of them had to go to the hospital. over 100 are at the hospital. they were able to contain the others. we're taking care of that right now. >> let's go from that to what the entire community is dealing with. you are breaking records for all of the wrong reasons overnight. tell me, put it in perspective, what it has been like, this historic rainfall and the flooding that is taking out roads in your town. >> as you know, public safety is number one and citizens' safety is number one. tuesday evening the storm just parked over pensacola, kate, and it didn't move. we were hoping it would move to the east 25 miles an hour but it
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hovered over pensacola and dumped over 22 inches of rain in a matter of 24 hours. so it's been devastating to us. obviously we're prepared for hurricanes but when you talk about flooding, pensacola has never had this kind of flooding. >> pensacola is on the water so they're used to that but not this flooding. you grew up in one of the neighborhoods that was hardest hit. what happened to it? >> i did. there's a street called piedmont that runs east and west in pensacola. and it just completely blew out. the retention ponds from near our airport just overran and came right into this street. it was an old riverbed over 100 years ago, so the water just completely blew out. but growing up over there, you never imagine that we would have flooding on this street. the asphalt blew out, the swuer blew out, the gas blew out. it devastated homes right there. it was really almost -- it was surreal. >> absolutely. i can only imagine what that looked like.
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what is the situation for residents now? do you have people who are missing? have you heard of fatalities? are emergency vehicles -- what are they doing? >> well, ye yesterday we didn't have any fatalities in the city. there was one death we believe in the county, however, people are displaced from their homes ride now so they're going to be displaced for weeks and months. so we're managing that situation right now. we haven't had to rescue anybody over the night. the water did recede, which we were very fortunate. but we're just being proactive and obviously taking care of our people and public safety is at the forefront. >> absolutely. from what i can see from where you are it looks like the rain has stopped for the moment. are you expecting further rain today? >> no, we're not. the weather dropped about 20 degrees which was interesting, so we have a little cold front that came through here. and we're expecting the skies to be clear. >> so that's a good thing that helping out search and rescue efforts and recovery efforts this morning. what are the biggest challenges
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as first light comes up? >> obviously organization and public safety but most importantly from an infrastructure standpoint we've had major damage within the city of pensacola. they're contained which is a good thing so we can manage people getting to and from work. however, we're going to have our team together and the engineering department getting the roads temporarily repaired so we can go forward. >> you've talked about that one road being completely blown out and other -- we've seen some video of a lot of flooding. but put it in some additional perspective for our viewers who maybe haven't been to pensacola who don't understand what kind of flooding you are up against. have youer se ever seen anythine it? >> i've never seen anything like it. i lived in new york city for a long time and we would have flooding in manhattan but imagine walking out of your front door and then just walking right into a river about 4 1/2 feet deep and water running through your front yard. so it was, like i said, surreal
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and an anomaly for pensacola to have this flooding. >> what's your best advice for residents this morning what are you telling them? >> well, i can tell you it is dry. the temperature did drop. the schools are canceled today. however, parents are going to have to go to work. so just use caution. be smart. people know our city. 37 geographical miles. manage your way around the city and be careful and be cognitive of the law enforcement and public safety. >> cost estimate on how much the damage is going to cost the city? >> just a guesstimate but i can fell you it's over the $100 million mark. >> ouch. that's a painful price tag to be looking at in just over 24 hours, mr. mayor. >> well, we know how infrastructure is and a lot of infrastructure is under the ground. there's a lot of money that goes into that. we're going to put a pen to the paper and get focused and get
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after it. >> the cost right now obviously is not the priority. it's making sure everyone is safe and getting -- making sure the roads are passable and everything is back up and running. thank you, mayor, for coming on. good luck today. >> thank you, kate. >> of course. wow, chris, they're up against a lot. >> you're telling me. boy, if you're a resident of pensacola we're going to put pen to paper, get focused and get after it. that's what you want to hear from your elected official. we'll find out what happens once they do that. when we come back on "new day," the malaysian government about to release its report on what happened to flight 370. so what can we expect? we're going to go live to kuala lumpur. and, many have opinions about the amanda knox case but we have someone who knows the case better than most. a judge who decided it. you're going to want to hear what he has to say. ♪ ♪ ♪ millions of peaches, peaches for me ♪
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anxiously awaiting is the way to describe how the familying are feeling. what are we expected to hear in it, will? >> well, you know, we're not really expecting any major surprises. a lot of details in this report are details we've already reported here from kuala lumpur and throughout the region on cnn. we're pegging a rundown of what happened with the flight, information that we know, the time it took off, where it was when there was a last radio transmission and the plane turning and, transponders being switched off. we're going to hear more about the satellite data that shows the plane most likely took a southern course towards the southern indian ocean. these are all things reported. we're not expecting any major surprises in the report but this will be the first time that these families actually have something tangible they can hold in their hands to look at and say, okay, here it is in black and white spelled out. there was supposed to be a press conference here in kuala lumpur where this information was going to be released. that press conference was canceled. so what we've been doing, we were told it was going to come in via e-mail. we've been check ourg inboxes to
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see when the report comes in and as soon as it does we will let you know. >> yeah, we're hope that there might be some nuggets of new information but we're not anticipate that will be the case. in any sense the report will ak gonlg the bay of bengal, the georesonance report? there's been a lot of skepticism coming from our aviation an lists about this. any sense they will address that? >> we don't believe that it will simply because georesonance just came forward been the last few days. we know there are two ships from bangladesh heading to the bay of bengal to check things out. the australian search chief angus houston is either here in kuala lumpur or on his way to meet with malaysian authorities. they may be discussing this new information. but the search chief's office has said all along they are focusing on the search corridor in the southern indian ocean. and one thing that will be laid out is perhaps the details to expand the underwater search. maybe we'll learn what kind of technology will be used aside
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from the bluefin-21. we'll have to wait and see. >> will ripley is live in kuala lumpur watching his e-mail as we are here. we will bring you that preliminary report from malaysian government as soon as we receive it. you can count on cnn for thanchthat. let's turn to the amanda knox case. they are explaining why she is guilty. at least one person is calming eight fantity fit for a movie script. he should know. he is the judge who has given the case after the original conviction. take a look. >> i'm not responsible for what happened. i didn't do it. i wasn't there. i don't know anything more about it. >> amanda knox has long maintained her innocence in murder of her british roommate meredith kercher. now as she fights back against new theories and allegations, she's getting support from a veteran of the italian justice system. claudio hellmann, the italian judge who tossed out knox' conviction in 2011. he's now lashing out at his
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colleagues who overturned that acquittal. in a hefty 337-page report an appeals court in florence justified reinstating knox's murder conviction, not only placing her at the crime scene but also claiming it was amanda herself who delivered the fatal knife wound to kercher's neck. the motive, a fight about rent money the night of the crime. but judge hellmann is dismissing the report as, quote, if result of fantasy. in a scathing statement obtained exclusively by cnn hellmann slams the court's lack of physical evidence to support their reasoning against knox and then boyfriend rafael sollecito. he says they have written a script for a movie or a thriller book while it should have only considered facts and evidence. there is no evidence to condemn knox and sollecito. it's the latest battle in a seven-year legal saga for the 26-year-old. and it's show nothing signs of
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ending any time soon. judge hellmann is now retired and fears knox will fall victim to politics, telling cnn, i think that the high court will be obliged to confirm the florence ruling if they don't want to openly contradict their colleagues. >> i'm afraid to go back there. i don't want to go back into prison. >> understandable. now, how do you judge hellmann? on the one side he's retired so he can speak freely. maybe he's upset because his decision is the one that was overturned by this latest decision that we're going to go through. on the other side, why would he lie? what's his interest in lying? so his comments are very important. but even more important is what will amanda knox say to what is in this new report and she will speak out for the first time since the release of this damning new report in our exclusive one-on-one interview with her that will air tonight in a cnn special report "the trials of amanda knox." that will be at 10:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn and then we'll bring you more of that interview and parts that you
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will want to hear tomorrow on "new day." more on the flight for 370. that search, the reports coming out any moment. we're going to give it to you when we get it as well as the latest on the devastating floods that are on the east coast. and news about toronto's mayor rob ford taking a leave of absence to deal with substance abuse issues. let's get to it. seems like the malaysians initially did not intend to release this report until we find the actual plane. no one anticipated it would just keep raining and raining and raining. >> a new video allegedly showing the mayor smoking crack cocaine. >> the nba, they decide who gets to buy and who doesn't. >> any own whole decides to side with donald sterling in this is a fool. >> there is not a stitch of evidence a implicates amanda knox. >> good morning. welcome back to "new day." it is thursday, may 1st.
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7:00 now in the east. and there are powerful storms leaving their mark all along the east coast. breaking overnight, hundreds of people forced to evacuate in a city in maryland after a dam opened up spilling thousands of gallons of water. the northeast dealing with powerful wind and rain. many folks waking up to flooding in and around new york city. we have it all covered starting with indra petersons in queens. what do you see out there? >> reporter: just look what people are waking up to. you're seeing several feet of water here in queens. you're looking at what looks like maybe a runoff from the city. we're hearing reports that a lot of what is sitting on the ground is actually sewage. keep that in mind if you're thinking about walking across these waters. at points in time residents were saying it was so high vehicles were under water. you can see if i walk up this hill just a little bit, this is the problem. we saw all of these streets completely flooded, that the
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sewers were actually overflowing and running into the basements of many homes where residents are waking up to a good two feet of sewage in this home -- in their homes. keep in mind this is not limited to the new york area. we're hearing this all across the northeast and even the southeast this morning. breaking overnight, day four of catastrophic storm system in the southeast. now barreling up the eastern seaboard threatening millions more. officials issuing flood warnings from florida to new york with seven inches of rain predicted in the northeast before it's all said and done. in maryland several thousz gallons of water rushed into a town 20 miles south of baltimore after a breach in a dam. forcing hundreds of residents to evacuate. in baltimore, the deluge so heavy it caused a massive landslide on one roadway sending half dozen cars tumbling into a ravine. rain triggering a mud slide in upstate new york collapsing this retaining wall. the torrential rain will continue battering parts of the
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northeast for hours to come. so this is the concern again this morning. we still have so many areas under flood warnings this morning and even flood watches of the entire tri-state area. from the northeast down to the southeast many areas are already flooded just like this. many of these streets completely impassable and the concern is more rain is on the way which will only mean conditions like this are expected to worsen. >> watching it here in new york. let's head down south where the storms have left a trail of devastation there. in pensacola, florida, forcing some people to navigate streets by boat. overnight, a deadly gas explosion caused a partial building collapse at an area jail. cnn's ed lavendandera is at the jail. we just spoke to the mayor and he said he grew up in pensacola and has never seen anything like this. >> reporter: kate, that's saying something considering the number of hurricanes and powerful
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hurricanes this region of the gulf coast has seen. i spoke with many people who yesterday said the flood levels and the flood t waters they saw here rivalled any kind of hurricane they have seen. nearby 20 inches of rain in 24 hours. this is a situation the emergency officials are dealing with here in pensacola. that is the county jail. explosion late last night killing two inmates. having to force the evacuation of this building. atf and the state fire marshal are investigating. you can see the power of that explosion and the ripple effect that it had through that building. a lot of structural damage there that they're dealing with. it was the flood waters and for the most part have finally receded throughout the region here from mobile, alabama, all of the way into pensacola, the waters have receded and people are getting a good chance today to continue the clean-up efforts in what we saw throughout the area was powerful and some homes had taken up to three feet of water. other neighborhoods swallowed up by five feet of water into their homes. a lot of clean-up left for these folks.
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everywhere we went yesterday people telling us they had never seen anything like this or dealt with rain with this intensity and this magnitude for a long period of time. >> thank you, ed. we also want to tell you today the ball is in the nba owners' court. will they force clipper's owner donald sterling from his team. they will meet on this today after sterling was banned for life from the league for making racist comments. cnn's stephanie elam is live in los angeles. the big question is, how will donald sterling face his fellow owners? >> that is the question, chris. and there's a lot of rich people already looking at ways to put their money together to potentially get a bid together. but the first thing that has to happen is is they've got to get donald sterling out. >> i am banning mr. sterling for life. >> reporter: now that nba commissioner adam silver has ousted donald sterling from the league, the question is, will the clippers owner put up a
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fight to keep the team? >> donald sterling to me is not going down without a fight. >> reporter: sterling disgraced after his racist rant went public told fox sports that the team is not for sale. but according to the nba's constitution, if 3/4 of the owners agree that he has to go, sterling could be forced to sell. silver, pledging to do everything in his power to ensure that happens, saying he expects to get the backing he needs. more than 20 teams stating they support silver's harsh punishment but it's not yet clear if those public positions would translate into votes. and sterling does have the right to try to convince the other nba owners to side with him. >> any owner who decides to side with donald sterling in this is a fool. in the court of public opinion, he will be just as guilty as sterling. >> reporter: all-star trio of would be buyers is waiting in the wings ready to pay big bucks for a contender in the league. a spokesperson for oprah winfrey
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says she's talking to entertainment mogul david geffen and software billionaire larry ellison about a possible joint bid. peeked interest from mayweather and de la hoya. about his wife? only after asking for and getting the green light from head coach doc rivers. >> this ruling applies specifically to donald sterling and donald sterling's conduct only were the nba says no decisions have been made but the players association telling yahoo! sports it won't accept any sterling as an owner. >> the nba, once they get the 3/4 votes, they are in charge of this franchise and they decide who gets to buy and who doesn't. i have zero doubt that the nba is going to prevent anyone from the sterling family from controlling this franchise. >> reporter: and commissioner silver said he wanted swift action and that he was going to stay on it. to that end, the owners are supposed to have their first
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meeting about this topic today. kate? >> all right, one step in a long process. stephanie, thank you very much. also new this morning, toronto's controversial mayor rob ford announces he's taking a leave of absence to get treatment for what he calls a struggle with alcohol. this comes after reports of a new video showing ford smoking what is allegedly crack cocaine from a pipe. cnn's paula newton has more. >> reporter: calling it one of the most difficult times in his life, embattled toronto mayor rob ford says he is taking a break from his re-election campaign. this comes after the or tront globe and mail reporting to have seen a new video allegedly showing the mayor smoking crack cocaine from a copper-colored pipe. the publication saying the video was shot this past saturday in ford's sister's apartment, and that they can't verify the substance was, in fact, crack. in may of last year cellphone video was released appearing to
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show ford smoking crack cocaine which he at the time denied and later conceded. >> yes, i have smoked crack cocaine. >> reporter: this morning his p oppone opponents, outraged. >> for the good of the city i call mayor ford to resign. >> reporter: mayor ford released a statement saying in part, i have tried to deal with these issues by myself over the past year. i know that i need professional help, and i am now 100% committed to getting myself right. his attorney told cnn ford is taking a leave immediately for substance abuse problems. also in comments to "the globe" he questioned the authenticity of the video and the motivation behind it. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in march ford was recorded stumbling and swearing outside toronto city hall and back in january ford admitted to, a quote, minor setback after this rant surfaced. he insisted he had a small amount to drink but had not taken any drugs.
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>> [ bleep ]. >> now, rob ford's lawyer declined to tell us exactly where he's going for this kind of help, what exactly -- what kind of help he would be getting. and he won't say, rob ford himself, how long he will actually be out. he has not called off his re-election campaign, merely saying he's taking a break to deal with some serious problems. >> paula newton with the latest on the embattled mayor in or ront tonchts let's lo toronto. ukraine's acting president is making a stunning acknowledgement saying security forces are helpless in stopping militants in yearn ukraine but put military on full combat readiness on wednesday. pro-russian gunmen have taken control of key buildings in the region. ukraine ordered expulsion of russian diplomat it accuses of spying. syria is not handing over what remains of chemical arsenal as agreed according to the "washington post." u.s. officials say syria is
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holding on to 27 tons of saran as leverage in a dispute over the future of storage facilities. sunday was the deadline to turn it over to international observers who want tunnels and buildings used to store the weapons destroyed. this morning safety experts calling for tighter regulations after yet another crude oil train derailment. a freight train jumped the track wednesday in linkburg, virginia, erupting into flames and spilling thousands of gallons of oil into the james river. some 50,000 gallons are unaccounted for as clean-up crews fight to contain the spill. federal safety investigators are trying to figure out just what went wrong. fortunately no injuries were reported in that crash. chris? >> all right, thank you very much. we're awaiting the release of the first report of the disappearance of flight 370 from the malaysian government. meanwhile, malaysian airlines has just issued a press release. we are reading it as we're lng to the headlines. they're going to close down family assistance centers around
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the world by may 7th. they will maintain a presence in beijing. let's bring in david soucie, cnn's safety analyst, to discuss this. david, i'm looking at it right now. in line with this adjustment, they say, adjustment meaning the new phase in the search and investigation, they're going to be closing all of its family assistance centers around the world by may 7th, 2014. they will keep in close touch with the familys, new updates, telephone calls. we then hear word they may keep something open in beijing. that's not what this says. what do you make of this? >> well, i think they're probably consolidating resources. the issue with having everybody together in one place is mostly for the purpose of being there when things are discovered. the family assistance centers, i think, are probably not very useful at this point, to be honest with you. the families are frustrated and they're trying to get some information but they're just not getting it anyway. >> but don't they matter the most? you have so many different --
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>> it should. >> -- so many different silos of resources. this is the one group of people that actually deserves information. just to clarify, it says while it's closing those family centers it says, with the support of the malaysian government the airline family support centers will be established in kuala lumpur and in beijing. so they're closing these worldwide ones, whatever that number is, and they're going to open these two new ones. they will keep some presence. that's good because, again, the families deserve it. another point. as we're waiting for this report, why are we waiting for this report? forget about the malaysian authorities and their teaming. couldn't we have gotten this from icao? >> that's right, chris. that's the part that i don't understand at all, is when the report goes to icao, icao is under no obligation to try to protect anything that's in that report other than the personal and secret kind of things. in other words, you want to protect privacy. you want to protect anything to do with the criminal investigation. and icao can't release that kind of information if it's on there, which i doubt it is.
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icao has the authority to do this. i just don't understand why that's not being pushed. we've heard very little from the icao authority, from the organization itself, from any of the ambassadors from any of the countries. remember, countries that are part of icao and the united nations, remember, icao is part of the united nations, each one of those ambassadors assigned to icao is part of it. they're part of the organization. they're part of the leadership. i've seen very little leadership out of icao. where are the ambassadors? they're wait for malaysia. i don't understand that. >> this body icao is in transition, right? the person who is the head is out. the new head is pending approval from the obama administration. submitted by but waiting on it. could it be that they're caught flatfooted in this situation? >> there's a lot of people at the table and united states is not one of them. united states under duane's leadership used to be the president of the airlines pilot association, he's been actively involved in airlines, and he was
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fantastic at his job. he retired in december. there was a nomination made. michael lawson, from los angeles, and michael lawson has had some ridicule actually. he's not got the kind of depth of experience that duane did and yet congress has drug its feet on trying to nominate someone else or they just basically said we're not going to put this guy, we're not going to confirm him so, therefore, it's a done deal. where is the new nomination? this is the worst time in history to not have some representation on tirks cao. they're going to set some rules. the united states have to follow them and we're going to be stuck flatfooted as you said to respond to the icao rules. >> the united states isn't driving the entire thing but you do want some representation there to be sure. so this report is going to come out. we expect it to be a basic cursory analysis but the reason that we're interested is because it will be a window into how malaysia has been thinking about this all along and where the
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welcome back to "new day." as we wait for the malaysian government to release its long awaited preliminary report on what they know about the disappearance of flight 370 so far, we want to dig deeper into one of the latest developments in the search for the missing plane. a new response this morning from the australian exploration company that claims it found possible wreckage from what could be an aircraft in the bay of bibengal, thousands of miles from the current search area. here to discuss, miles o'brien. good morning. >> good morning. >> i want to read and i don't know if we have a graphic for this yet but i want to read, i
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think, probably the most interesting part of we call it a response. i think we call it a defense of what they've done from georesonance this morning. i want to get your take on it. they say in part, it's surprising that some media commentators who have not heard of the technology or do not have an understanding of quantum physics dismiss the technology outright. georesonance is not attempting to educate the world on technological capabilities. georesonance goal was to offer findings to government search authorities. they seem -- they're defending their actions to this point. do they have a point, miles? >> well, they're defending their actions without providing a shred of evidence that they have technology that works. they say they have trade secrets. i get that. why not show previous verifiable examples of this technology working? they haven't done that. you don't have to reveal trade secrets to say here's what we've done in the past and here's how
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it works. none of that has occurred. what also bothers me about this press release is it's kind of an exit stage right press release. we've identified this site in the bay of bengal. we did it for moral reasons. now good-bye, everybody. thank you very much for coming. and that to me is just pretty much case in point that this is about publicity as much as anything else. >> now, the company says that it did provide all of their technical background to the malaysian government in a briefing that they held. they said they spoke for about an hour. they don't feel the need to release that to the public. and now bangladesh has announced they're sending two ships to that area to figure this out. so is this back and forth do you think in the end all for not because it's essentially we may find out one way or the other if what they're claiming is true. >> well, yeah. i mean, but remember, they briefed the malaysian officials, the real experts for an hour, and they dismissed the whole thing. don't forget that. number two, the malaysian navy,
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if it wants to check this out because there's so much public pressure, that's fine. if this company, which claims a moralal truistic goal is really all a it that why don't they keep helping with the search? why don't they train their technology on the southern site in why don't they prove somehow they can identify a verifiable piece of wreckage deep beneath the sea? none of these things have r. happening. they've identified this apparent wreckage in the bay of bengal and now they're saying they're done. i think we should all be done with it. >> you make a very good point not only do you always make a good point but on the fact that if you think your technology has worked here, why not apply it to the area where everyone is focusing the search. i haven't heard that that's question has been posed to the company yet. have you heard any response on that? >> i've been posing it for a day but nobody seems to be listening to me at georesonance. if they truly had a verifiable technology that could locate an ircraft on the bottom of the ocean floor, aim the satellite
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at the search site in the southern ocean, help out the search in that way. that's the moral obligation. >> what could be provided that would give you more interest in this kram rather than saying that they need -- is it just more evidence? is it their methodology, is there more information they could provide that could make it, i don't want to say more valid, but at this point, more people are skeptical than they are finding this promising. >> again, you know, i just think that, you know, i agree. i'm sure there are secret things that they -- any company needs to hold close. but there's a whole body of knowledge and general information which they weren't sharing with anybody. just the basics of how this works, but, you know, basically some verifiable examples would go a long way. here's how we did it in the past. here's a piece of wreckage. here's a shipwreck, here's how we did it. go to their website. they made claims of finding a shipwreck in the black sea. that ship has not really been
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located, as it turns out. there's an abs sense of examples. extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. and there is no extraordinary evidence here. >> the thing that also is at play here you talk about an absence of evidence and absence of examples, there's also an absence of any real evidence in the other part of the search effort, in the search indian ocean. i think that is why some of the family members are feeling ingi little bit of why not at this point. >> no, and i do. you know, if the bangladesh navy wants to check this out, fine. i was concerned yesterday that somehow there would be pressure to move resources that are on the search site where we've had the pings, where we've had the inmarsat arcs, you know, where we might have had who knows australian defense radar verifying things. that won't be released publicly. if you moved resources off that, that would be bad. for the bangladesh navy to steam out there, call it a training mission and see if they can find wreckage there, why not. i see no problem with that.
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>> real quick, miles. along the vein of looking for real hard and true evidence that are facts, as we're waiting and anticipating this report to come out from the malaysian government, what are you going to be looking for as i know you've read many of these reports in the past. >> repair yourself to be underwomened. i've seen the form you're supposed to fill out for icao. it's very basic information. stuff we already know. when it has room for a narrative. the narrative has to be 200 words or less. so i suspect if they follow the letter of the icao procedures for preliminary report, we're going to be sadly disappointed by all this. 200 words, that's practically a tweet. >> at this point, a tweet plus a little bit of something. all right. >> exactly. yeah. >> let's hope that nothing when it comes to an explanation of evidence when it comes to this, the missing flight and everything that's gone on and the little that we know after some seven weeks can be summed up in a tweet.
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miles, great to see you. thank you so much. >> you're welcome. coming up, the malaysian authorities report that we were just talking about on flight 370 as soon as it is released we'll bring it to you. also, we have inside politics this morning. we'll go inside the white house, find out about president obama's favorite new stress reliever. we're going to tell you how he blows off steam and makes key decisions at the same time.
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welcome back to "new day." here's a look at your headlines. malaysian officials are expected to release the first report on the disappearance of flight 370 any moment now.
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we'll bring it to you live. family members have been demanding to see those documents -- that document for a while. for weeks, in fact. this just in. malaysian airlines announcing it will close the support center where the families of flight 370 have been gathering at a hotel in beijing by tomorrow. they're also going to close some of their other family support centers. we're told they will keep family support center open in kuala lumpur and in beijing. huge parts of the east coast are under water this morning after massive storms. hundreds of people have been evacuated in laurel, maryland, after a dam opened up. several thousands of gallons of water was released. the dam has since been stabilized. pensacola saw rainfall of epic proportions. we know that one woman was killed. the weather could also be responsible for a gas explosion at a jail that collapsed part of the roof injuring some 100 inmates and killing two. a major concession by ukraine's acting president admitting security forces are essentially helpless to stop pro-russian militants, even so
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he put his military on full combat readiness wednesday. pro-russian gunmen have taken control of symbolic buildings in more than a dozen cities and towns taking over much of the eastern portion of ukraine. , in brk a ownership committee meets today to discuss donald sterling's future of the owner of clippers. the commissioner wants the owners to use their power to force him out. that would require the support of 3/4 of the other nba owners. see how i did that? i could bless you and tell the news. >> i'm sorry. i really tried to hold it? >> we are human doing this show. that baby doesn't need a sneeze. >> don't want to wake her up even though we have to be up. didn't mean to scare her. >> i want her up. everybody has to watch. >> be nice. we want her to see asleep as long as possible. >> that's a dedicated viewer there. named christopher as she should be. great name. works for other genders. >> split screen.
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>> appropriate reaction. >> not appropriate. >> and that's why we're both here. >> thank you. >> balance. >> all right. time for inside politics on "new day" with mr. john king. j.k., how are you? >> immigra'm great but if you w keep going, we can watch. >> the baby moves every time she hears your voice, john. she's into politics already. >> we'll be back to you. "inside politics", a lot of ground to cover. with me margaret of bloomberg news and politico. let's start, i often talk about the politicians, the democrats and republicans seemingly living in parallel universes. sometimes the economic statistics operate the same way. i want to get your sense of how much the debate about the economy and pessimism about the economy affects the election this year. gross domestic product, growing, flat lined. last quarter, pretty much nothing. the economy was stalled.
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however, if you look at wall street, the markets hitting record lies. if you have a 401(k) you're probably doing well. margar margaret, how much frustration is here at the white house that they think the numbers, most of the numbers are getting better and yet seven in ten americans are pessimistic about the xhoi economy? >> they think is the lag and doldrums of winter that coming into the new year as it picks up, second, third quarter, things are growing. but the white house knows that really this doesn't matter that much until the summertime or late in the summertime. republicans are going to use this now to push down on democrats' fortunes and get the most they can out of it. it really is a mixed bag and too soon to see how much it will hurt them. >> interesting perspective. you think it was just the winner. we're going to be fine. late spring and summer, things will be better. isn't there a sense that because this has gone on so long, because the recovery has been modest, there's just a psychology of people that it not getting better out in america. people in washington might be optimistic when you look at the
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statistics. if you travel the country, races rim pacted. >> democrats wanting to run on the economy this year. they didn't want to run on the health care law. they hoped the job numbers improving, the market improving, all the statistics showed an economic recovery that was going to get stronger, not be this type of recovery that we've seen over the last several years. but as we saw yesterday, that's not going to be possible for democrats if we see economic growth not keeping pace with the has been in previous quarters that it's going to hurt people like mark pryor in arkansas, red states like in louisiana where they wanted to run on the economy instead. the best way to win is to viscerate their opponents. >> let's move on. yesterday we talked about a newly released because of a lawsuit by a conservative group showing the deputy security adviser ben rhodes was trying to give advice about benghazi and
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other issues in the middle east with susan rice in 2012. came up contentious issue at the white house briefing yesterday as to why, why did the white house not release this document with so many others a year ago. >> why were you holding back this information? why was this e-mail not turned over to the congressman? why did you not release this with of t. other e-mails? this is directly relevant. >> jon, again -- why did it take a court case for you to release this? >> jon, i can say it again and again and i know you can keep asking again and again. this document was not about benghazi. >> i don't know how -- you know, i don't have two hands. i don't know how you can say this is not about benghazi. if you look at the timeline of events i can't understand why the white house did this because if you released it with all the others you could say, ben rhodes, when he wrote this document was following, looking at the timeline, previous e-mail that came over t from the cia saying here are the talking
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points. they can release this and people could say it was wrong or misleading and be done with it a year ago. now people are saying why are you hiding this? >> right. in a year we will probably get the memo release and why they didn't release the memo, right? must be some combination of executive privilege, lawyers saying we don't need to release this. all of that. bottom line is it makes perfect sense for the deputy national security adviser for communications to be advising the national security adviser on how to communicate and now it's turned into an eruption that they didn't need. >> it makes perfect sense for the skeptics of the administration to say what else are you hiding? >> this is going to fuel calls from the republicans to create a select committee to investigate what happened in benghazi. this is what a lot of republicans have been banging the drums over. this is what makes the white house nervous about giving republicans control of the senate come fall buzz thatecaus going to be a huge push. purri in
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pushing and doing more investigation on benghazi, that's what's going to happen should republicans -- narrative for 2016, especially if hillary ends up there. >> not just the obama white house but potentially about secretary of state hillary clinton at the time and on that segue, not just jay carney who sometimes gets mad at reporters, listen to bill clinton speaking to georgetown university yesterday. his context here is the health care law mostly. he says in the coverage of obamacare people decided months ago it was a failure and as there's more evidence of it coming in he says the political press focuses on what's up here not on the facts. >> there is a craving which borders on blindness to shoe horn every fact, every development, everything that happens into the story line, even if that's not the story. >> that's bill clinton speaking from his experience. >> so much fun. you can just see the fun to come in the months to come. >> i've been on the receiving end of bill clinton temper tantrum. i was a writing in those days
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mostly before i switched into television. m manu, hillary showed up. she was there. maggie from politico as well as one of our friends in the "inside politics" family has a piece on the clinton's relationship with the media. in it there is this quote from a campaign veteran. look, she hates you. period. that's never going to change. >> that's right. interesting to sort of coming out there before she's even said she's going to run. what the clinton friends are saying is that may be a reason why she does not run is because of the barrage of media scrutiny, the relentlessness of this 24/7 media environment. this could be her big factor and why she does not actually u lly ultimate take an easier path to the nomination. >> vast left wing conspiracy to boost the clinton juggernaut. >> that's part of this is that president clinton is concerned that she will not get credit and
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he will not and by virtue of the, you know, convey to her, get credit for being left wing enough. and his argument is right now, hey, you know, my moderate approach to welfare reform was about income and equality and the press doesn't get it. >> we just don't get it. >> quick footnote here and we'll move on. if hillary clinton needs an incentive to move on, the poll chose her 49-41 over jeb bush, the former governor of florida. leading republican candidate. look at that. that's a good poll for hillary clinton. it is 2014. not so bad. margaret, i want to end with a piece you wrote on bloomberg about how the president now when he's feeling stress decides to make big decisions. goes outside, walks around. there's a track outside the white house. we first learned about this in a policy context during a decision on whether to let congress vote or should american troop bs used in syria. walking with his chief of staff.
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how often does he do this? >> depends on the weather. we had that really cold winter where he wasn't getting out there much at all. now that it's nice again he's been out there as all the obamacare stats were coming in waiting to find out were they going to hit that 7 million target. for obama the frustration, so many frustrations, that walk helps him to kind of feel like he can get some movement on issues when things are really stuck. >> when things get stuck. can you discuss sensitive intelligence issues outside the white house? >> some things are better left for the sit room but if it's politics you're talking about, 100%. a lot of that around the track. >> edward snowden has a memo on that. as we go back to new york, often we let jimmy kimmel or david letterman or colbert end it, but frank trying his hand on late night comedy. listen. >> oh, no. >> i think we lost that one. barney frank on last night saying he used to be what's more
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controversy, being gay american or politician. he says it's now much more controversial, people frown on the politicians. >> barney frank, post-office. i bet he's loving his life. >> it's good that -- i hope he's right about that. you know what i mean? >> absolutely. >> at least that's an objective basis for criticism as opposed to what somebody is about. as john noknows, barney franks once told me, i asked him a question -- he was on the banking committee. at the time the banks were taking a beating and he was blaming the republicans. i said, wait a minute, don't you have responsibility? you're the senior person of the banking committee. why sb it your fault. he said, you are the worst. he said to me. >> you take that as compliment. >> at the time it was very frightening. >> i had a great routine at that time chasing him around the hill. he's got a certain charm when barney frank doesn't feel like answering. he would always say, that is a stupid question. and kind of move on and not oons
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it. there you go. >> i'll take stupid question over you're the worse. lots of people can ask stupid questions. coming up next on "new day," malaysian authorities reports on flight 370 is set to be released any moment. we'll have it right here with you and we will break it down. plus, as many try to figure out how to force clippers owner donald sterling to sell the team, the focus is shifting to the women in his wife. the mi mistress, the wife who is suing the mistress. stay with us. [ hypnotist ] you are feeling satisfied
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welcome back. an nba ownership committee meets today to discuss donald sterling's future as owner of the los angeles clippers. while sterling's clearly under the microscope what about the women in sterling's wife including his wife you see on the right and the girlfriend who taped his infamous racist rant. you see her on the left. randi kaye explains. >> reporter: no doubt v. stiviano had dreams of making her mark one day. listen to this. >> one day i will become president of the united states of america. >> reporter: yes, that's stiviano telling the paparazzi about her plans to be president. for now she'll remain the other woman in the donald sterling saga. she reportedly first met sterling at the 2010 super bowl. she claims to be his archivist. but it's unclear exactly what that means. whether on sterling's arm as a
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clippers game or on her own, she is tabloid fodder. >> are you surprised by all the attention that you've been getting? >> i'm trying to walk my dog. >> reporter: on her instagram account where she posted this picture with magic johnson that set off sterling's racist rant, she writes, i do it all. describing herself as an artist, lover, writer, chef, poet, stylist, and philanthropist. her photos include this one posing as an angel. another in a bathing suit. plus, photos of cars with personalized license plates, alleged gifts from donald sterling. the plates read, i heart you v., and v. hearts you. which brings us to another woman in donald sterling's life, his wife, rochelle sterling. she's been married to the clippers owner for more than 50 years. a relationship that's also a bit hard to explain given that rochelle is well aware of stiviano and her relationship with her husband.
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so aware that rochelle filed this lawsuit against stiviano in march to protect and recover community property. sterling alleges that stiviano's conduct was designed to target, befriend, seduce, and then entice, cajole, borrow from wealthy older men. the lawsuit claims the cars and money donald sterling gave stiviano were community assets given without the knowledge, consent, or authorization ofs his wife. those include at least $240,000 in living expenses, plus a ferrari, two bentleys, and a range rover wor worth more than $500,000. and stiviano was given $1.8 million to buy a duplex in los angeles. as far as her husband's comments, on sunday afternoon rochelle sterling called them despicable. telling tmz, our family is devastated by the racist
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comments made by my estranged husband. later that night, a different story. caught leaving a restaurant with her husband, she defended him. listen. >> are you a racist, mr. sterling. >> no, of course not. forget it. it's not true. >> not true? >> no, of course not. >> reporter: whatever the real story is and whatever their relationship, one thing we know for sure, neither of these women will be cheering on the clippers alongside donald sterling anymore. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> thanks to randi for that. >> i was going to say, that's the truth. they're not going to be sitting by him in any games because he's not going to any games any time soon. coming up on "new day," malaysia airlines announcing it's closing the support center where's the families have been gathering and comforting each other for weeks. that's not all the grieving families are being told this morning. we have details for you ahead. a.
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welcome back as we abate the release of the report into the flight of 370 due out in moments, we have just learned that malaysia airlines is closing the support center for families of the missing passengers at the hotel in beijing. we also know daily briefings updating the families on the investigation are also being stopped. officials say they will open two smaller centers. the families were given this news at a meeting this morning. joining us from beijing is sarah bajc. her partner, phillip wood, was on the flight. she was at that briefing. she hustled across town to get in front of a skype camera to talk to us now.
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first of all, i understand you were at the meeting. tell us what the tone of the meali meeting was like. >> it was extremely tense. there were probably about 500 family members gathered in the room. i think i was the only caucasian person in the entire place. and police everywhere. so there might have been one police officer for every maybe ten family members. they were out in force. >> and what all were you told? >> well, the meeting began with really no personal introduction whatsoever. the presentation which was taped interviewed of the ceo of malaysian airlines, he came up on -- the video came up on a big-screen tv in english. and the chinese family members all watched it. i was there as well watching. and then when that video completed, i think it was maybe
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seven minutes or something. when it completed, then the screen went blank, and then an interpreter who had been taking notes during it came on the microphone and started to give the chinese translation of the message. and then all of the family members started to cry and to yell out. and i left the room at that point because it was starting to feel very, very tense. and i didn't want to get stuck in there. >> do you have any idea of how that meeting ended? >> i could hear -- i stayed outside of the room. i could hear a lot of yelling. some of the police officers that were outside went in. and they started to file family members out through a separate exit. so i could see them leaving in a line. and then there were a number of people still inside yelling. >> i'm not sure how much of the presentation was in english.
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what did you understand and what do you think the families were so upset about? >> well, the entire presentation by the ceo of malaysian airlines was in english. so i probably thood understood better than anybody else in the room. most of the family members are not english speakers, so they only could get the content of it after the translation began. and that's when people started to break down. but i can tell you from prior conversations with the subleader group of the general family association, we met actually last night for dinner. and we were talking about this as a possibility. and they are very distraught because the average chinese family member will be sent home to mostly a very rural place with limited access to internet, and they just feel like all lines of communication will be cut. >> sarah, you're speaking of the fact that the malaysian airlines
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has talked about closing these family support centers. i understand there's going to be one kept open or a variety of one kept open in kuala lumpur, one kept open in beijing, but that hotel where so many families have been gathering, that is no longer going to be there. and it has really provided support for you and the families. >> well, it's provided support for the chinese families who don't have access to any other information. that's for sure. because in china, the media is very, very blocked. for instance, even all day today, i wasn't able to get online for most of the day. i had to go to a friend's house in order to access their internet connection. mine is certainly being monitored and cut off at opportune times. so it's really only the more educated chinese who have access to internet connectivity through an office as an example. >> right. >> who have any access to the international news. >> well, to that end, we nld e
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understand the next of kin, you have received a copy of this report. you have it in hand, but you haven't had a chance to go through it, is that correct is this >> well, i haven't received the report yet, the preliminary findings report. that was not in the e-mail i received. >> what did you receive? >> what i received was a copy of the briefing notes. so the presentation that was made and some sort of documentation around compensation calculations that will be discussed now with family members. i only had a chance just briefly to look at the e-mail content before we started this interview. i need to go back to it. >> well, we're all awaiting that iko report. what are you most specifically hoping to hear and glean there it? >> well, i'm hoping that there's going to be some actual factual information in it. we are all quite frustrated with getting only analysis because we don't trust the analysis that's
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been done. and we're a pretty smart up groo group of people with a lot of engineers on our team and a lot of external experts who have come forward and volunteered their services to help look at factual data and try to come up with perhaps a different kind of analysis from it. so we're hoping that there are facts in the report. >> sarah, really quickly, the bay of bengal, the report, a lot of aviation experts are poking holes in this or at least they're skeptical of it. do you still hold any credence in that? we know that there's a couple of bangladeshi frigates headed that way to investigate further. >> well, i'm not sure that the bangladeshi frigates have sonar capability to reach down 1,000 meters, but i'm very, very pleased that they have stepped forward to do that. and a huge thank you to them. you know, i look at it this way. if their technology works, they're going to find something there. if it's the plane, then we'll
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all be devastated, but we can at least grieve properly and go on with our lives. if it's something else, like a ship, then at least we know the technology works and they could use that elsewhere. and if it's nothing at all, then they have some explaining to do. >> sarah bajc joining us from beijing, we appreciate you making time and getting to a skype connection to talk to us about this. sarah, thank you. kate? >> michaela, thanks very much. let's take a break. coming up next on "new day," the malaysian authorities' report is expected any minute now, and we'll have that for you and have full analysis on what it means for the search going forward. what new things are we learning? plus, these torrential rains and flooding that are causing chaos from florida all the way up to the northeast. we're going to be live with a closer look at the damage and the cleanup and what's coming. stay with us. dear sun, you created light. you are loved. celebrated. but things have changed since you got into this business.
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welcome back to "new day." it's thursday, may 1st, 8:00 in the east. breaking overnight, extreme weather won't let up, leaving millions to face record-breaking storms all along the east coast, the gulf coast was hit with some of the worst of it. in wednesday cola, florida, almost two feet of rain fell,
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washing away parts of homes and leaving much of the city flooded. also overnight, a suspected gas explosion at a county jail there killed two inmates, injured 100 more. we are covering it from north to south for you this morning. first let's get to ed lavandera who's outside that florida jail with the very latest. ed? >> reporter: good morning, kate. you can see the building behind me. this is the jail, if you look on that green part of the building, you can see the force of this blast has forced that building to buckle. we looked on the backside of the building, and the force of this blast blew out parts of the walls on the back of the jail as well. breaking news overnight, day four of a catastrophic storm system in the southeast is now barrelling up the eastern seaboard threatening millions more. officials have issued flood warnings from florida to new york with six inches of rain predicted in some parts of the northeast. city streets are already submerged. in maryland, several thousand
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gallons of water rushed into a town 20 miles south of baltimore after a breach in a dam. forcing hundreds of residents to evacuate. >> water started coming through a joint in the dam. the water was coming from the backside to the front side, and eroding away some of the soil on the front side. >> reporter: in baltimore, the deluge so heavy that it caused a massive landslide on one roadway, sending a half dozen cars tumbling into a ravine. in the southeast, an explosion caused a roof to explode, injuring hundreds of inmates. >> rlt sa of tas a result of st yesterday, there was extensive flooding in this building. >> reporter: it's not known if flooding in the area played a role yet. you can hear the record of the violent floodwaters wednesday spawned by nearly 20 inches of rainfall in only 24 hours. >> in an hour, everything, just that gush. >> reporter: flooding over five feet in some areas, forcing hundreds of rescues.
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no mobile, alabama, a dramatic moment as floodwaters trapped one man. he was barely able to cling to a tree before he was rescued. the town of orange beem almost completely flooded. its local marina now under water. and in pensacola, florida, the torrential rains washed out part of the scenic highway, sending cars plummeting into a ditch. >> it's unbelievable, the amount of flooding we've had. i went to one home where the foundation was gone. >> reporter: and leaving entire neighborhoods in the city inundated. >> i lived here 20 years. i've never seen this happen in a city like this. >> reporter: and now this is something else that investigators and emergency officials here in pensacola have to deal with, cleaning this up. there was a great deal of water where we were, where we're standing here now, chris. that water had gotten into the building. as we mentioned, they're trying to figure out if the floodwaters is what might have caused the explosion or led to the explosion here in pensacola. >> let us know what you find out.
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20 inches in 24 hours, that is amazing. right now the northeast is bracing for more heavy rainfall. by rain, we meet street flooding, cars sinking, historic dam-breaking amounts of rain. overnight hundreds of people were forced to evacuate a city in maryland after a dam literally opened up, sending water gushing. this morning the tri-state area waking up to dangerous flooding. let's get to indra petersens live in queens. indra, it's looking like you're going to need that raincoat again before long. >> reporter: yeah it's definitely not good news and the tri-state area is waking up to flood watches across the region, and for good cause. they're waking up to flood warnings because residents are waking up to sights like this, water so high that is making roads completely impassable. now, it may look to the naked eye like this is just water. you get a little closer here and you'll notice this is actually sewage. i spoke to a lot of the residents. they said last night the water was so high that their cars were completely submerged. now, the water has gone down
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just a little more, but keep in mind, they were seeing those sewers flooding and that water was going into the basements of their homes. several feet high is actually what they're still dealing with this morning. of sewage into their -- excuse me, sewage into their basements. what are we looking at today? yes, more rain expected in the forecast as we go through the afternoon today. no, not as much as what we saw, but several more inches of rain where many areas are still experiencing flooding. never a good thing when you see this tri-state area already looking like this. >> all right, indra, we'll be back to you. we do have breaking news. this is the moment we've been waiting for. if you're following the search for flight 370. the malaysian authorities have released their first report on what happened. let's get live right away to kuala lumpur. will ripley is there with the news. what do we know, will? what do you see? >> reporter: hey, chris. yeah, this is the five-page report i have in my hand right now. we just printed it out, and i have to say, as i'm scanning through it, as we have been
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saying, there really are no big surprises here. it lays out in detail the time frame of mh370's takeoff, the flight and then the disappearance as we know it. so it talks about the transponderswitched off, the last radio communication, the "good night malaysian 370" that we talked so much, and the satellite communication, those six hourly handshakes that we have also reported about. one thing at the end of the report on the bottom of page 4 and 5, it has some safety recommendations. it talks about the fact that -- i'm going to read to you -- while commercial transportation airport spend considerable amounts of time operating over remote areas, there is currently no requirement for realtime tracking of these aircraft, and there have now been two occasions during the last five years when large commercial air transport aircraft have gone missing, and their last position was not accurately known. it goes on to say it is recommended the international civil aviation organization examine the safety benefits of introducing a standard for
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realtime tracking of commercial air transport aircraft. in other words, it's saying that what needs to happen to prevent mh370 from happening again is that we need to find a better way to track these planes when they're in the air over these remote areas like mh370 was where it literally was able to vanish. here we are nearly eight weeks into this search and still not one single piece of the plane. what this report does not include, though, is a lot of answers to the questions we've been asking. specifically what is it about the satellite data, the inmarsat satellite dat that that makes investigators so confident that mh370 is sitting in this corner of the indian ocean and not somewhere else? we were hoping this report might explain why, why there's so much confidence that mh370 is in this search zone where they've been searching so long, chris, and haven't found a single piece of the plane or any evidence that the plane is there. >> thank you very much. let's assess if the malaysians put their best foot forward in this situation. what's in it, what's not. we turn to cnn aviation
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correspondent and all-around knowledgeable man on this, richard quest. first question to you, richard. you've got the report in your hand. to question that the safety recommendations matter. it is an entirely separate issue and one of the main reasons we keep following this story, because after 9/11, the idea that an aircraft could just disappear and not be tracked is a dangerous proposition. so that's in there. that's good. what else do you see in the report that is relevant to the search? >> it is important to state right at the outset that the report meets the requirements of iko. it's meant to be a basic assessment of the core facts known at this particular juncture. and there's no question at alta this meets that standard. >> because? >> because it tells us what basically happens. the plane took off. the plane -- let's see if we can get this thing up and running. so what does it tell us? it tells us owhen the plane too off. it tells us where it went, the
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direction, and tells us that it was missing. >> so that's like the duh factor. >> that is the duh factor. >> so what else does it do? >> and that is what we've got from this report. if we take a look at actually some of the things that it doesn't tell us, we can actually get a little bit more information. let's take this one over here. clear that out from earlier. what it doesn't tell us is who did what, where, when and why on the night. it does not reveal -- and we're waiting for more documents which i believe are going to come out in the next hour, they're putting a lot of appendices with this. the report itself does not go into details about why kuala lumpur missed it when it says it right here, it fell off radar. it fell off radar. 1:21, it was observed on radar. at 1:21:13, the radar disappeared. >> which means?
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>> which means literally that's when the transponder was switched off. we don't know. there's a 13-minute gap before vietnam said, hang on. where's that plane? a 13-minute gap before vietnam said, we haven't seen mh370. where is it? and then we get to what i think is probably the biggest issue of what this report doesn't say. what i'm calling the four-hour gap. for four hours, air traffic control between malaysia, hong kong, vietnam, thailand, they were all talking to each other trying to find the plane. the report makes it clear between 1:38 and 5:30 local time, they were all saying where's the plane? but nobody -- nobody started the rescue coordination center. >> where's the period -- is that within the period when they stram be scrambled planes? >> they didn't.
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>> so that was before. >> we know from the prime minister they didn't. but what we also know from the prime minister is that during that four-hour gap while the plane is going this way, malaysian military is monitoring it. and what the report doesn't tell us yet -- and i need to see various documents that have come out with it, because they are releasing a lot more documents than just this report, i've been told, we need to know, in that so-called -- remember, we're calling it the four-hour gap -- in the four-hour gap, were malaysian military involved in discussing? >> but don't they say that they scrambled planes? doesn't the military say that? >> no. >> somebody said it. we were reporting it. somebody had said they scrambled jets and they said no, there were planes, but they did scramble them in this direction. >> no. not during the time. >> so that was after. >> only after the 0530. only after the 0530 when the plane is now known as missing and the coordination center. but here's the really awful fact
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about this whole business. this is what needs to be brought in mind. at 0530, the rescue coordination center is activated. 0530. this plane is still flying. it's flying thousands of miles further south. and it continues to fly for another 2 1/2 hours. so not only have you got a four-hour gap, you've got 2 1/2 hours after that where the plane is still flying and nobody knows where it is. and the biggest issue is going to be, in this part of the investigation, this. who knew what in the four-hour gap. >> and you also have diego garcia over there, right, which is the u.s. intel outpost that they have that supposedly has surveillance technology. the plane flew by it also. >> it's not unusual for there to be a gap of several hours when a plane goes missing. you know, i call you. you call them. they call them. have you seen such -- what about that? and everybody goes and has a cup of tea and then comes back and
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says no, i haven't seen them. have you? it's not unusual. but after air france 447, to have four hours of a gap where nobody seems to have said, where is this plane? it's four hours without contact. and what this report does not do -- and i think is deficient in not doing -- >> hold on a second. the last and most important point at this juncture, before they have their appendices and most legitimate question for you for the rest of the day, because we're setting the table, why are they adding to the appendices when they've had plenty of time to release it, are they filling in the gap because they don't know or because they don't want to fill in the gap or want us to know? that's a key question. >> it's a key question, absolutely. absolutely the tick tock in our language of who said what to whom in that four-hour gap -- it might have had no effect on the final result. by the time this happened, the
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plane was somewhere down there. >> it matters for the accountability of process. >> it matters for the accountability because as they say in their recommendations, you know, for a plane to go missing is pretty unconscionable. the australian prime minister says, in this day and age, for a plane to go missing. so for the fact that it can be missing for four hours before the rescue and coordination center, and we don't know if malaysian military spotted it doing that, that, i think, is going to be key in this whole question now. >> all right. and that's where we begin, really, with this now for the rest of the day. we'll see what the appendices are. you'll be going through it. richard, thank you very much. kate, over to you. next on "new day," we'll continue to pore through the malaysian authorities' authority and the appendices, some of the key information is that we might get. we'll ask our experts if they think the report offers any new clues. where do they go from here? [ male announcer ] this is jim.
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welcome back to "new day." breaking news we're continuing to follow at this hour. the malaysian government has just released its initial report on the disappearance of flight 370. let's continue to break it down. we have now documents just coming into our inboxes right now. let's break it down with miles o'brien, cnn aviation analyst and science correspondent for b pbs and david seucie. i know you're going through these documents as we are. let's first get your initial reaction and then go through some of the information. miles, you said for me to prepare to be underwhelmed. >> i would put this in the category of beyond a preliminary report, which is good.
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basically, a preliminary report in the ntsb model investigation comes out a few days after. and it states the very basic facts. and if they really had stuck to that, you know, three-day post incident kind of model, we would have gotten a lot less information. i'd put this in the category of more intermediate type of report, not final, and it does provide a lot more detail about the route. i don't know if you can bring up that map. >> yeah, let's put up that map. and i hope this is the map you're talking about as well, miles. from what i can gather, i think that's maybe five possible routes that they believe the plane may have taken south. is that what you're looking athe? >> yes. yeah, and what it does is -- and it looks like it provides much more specificity on the exact points at which radar interrogated this aircraft. i don't know if you can zoom in on that on the air, but it indicates the last air defense radar point. and then it indicates what their suppositions are on speed and
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their -- the time. and i'm trying to see if they're just using guesses on the speed. but the point is, it provides a lot of information as to how they derive these -- the highest, lowest and mid probability areas. the highest probability area being the red box, low being yellow, mid being green. that's where the initial and now current search is, the current search being in the red box area. it does provide some information on the speed and altitude which they used to derive all of this. that's helpful. >> yeah, it is helpful. david, come and join us on this conversation. in the reports that you have looked through in the past, is this typical? because as i first saw this map, it kind of looked like one of those spaghetti models that our meteorologists use when we're kind of trying to track a hurricane as it's heading closer to shore. is this kind of a model showing the possibilities of where the routes could be and they're helping us out here, trying to
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zoom in. is that typical to see? >> you know, it would be in any kind of a search operation, but typically by now, you would have found, by the time the 30-day report comes out, you would have found an aircraft. this search is -- this is the key piece of the data. so therefore the key piece of the data should be in the preliminary report. but there is something that's very interesting to me in this report. the information that we didn't have before, which is the 40 degrees. they say that the pings -- or that the locator on the inmarsat data gave us 40 degrees from the satellite. now in my opinion, that really increases my confidence in this information. the reason is that at 40 degrees, what they're saying is this arc was derived from a 40-degree angle from the satellite, meaning that they now exactly what this came from that spot. that's incredibly encouraging for me and raises my confidence degree with that information. so that's very important to me, and it really reinforces that it's there. >> now, that's getting
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technical, but that's kind of where we are in this. and that's what -- no, i'm glad you're bringing it up. that's the kind of information that as i understand it has been lacking to this point. folks have not been -- they have not been giving us the reasoning why they are so confident in the inmarsat data in how they have used a new way of calculating never before used to try to figure out the path of this plane. is that what this 40-degree angle is helping you better understand? >> well, the 40-degree angle is not new. the 40-degree angle from the satellite is something that's known. what wasn't known and what's new is using doppler-effect radar to determine whether it was the north/south, north or south route, and to earn did the degree at which the points relate to themselves. so, again, it's getting very technical and hard to explain without talking about asmussen and triangulations and things like that. if you visualize this satellite
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in space and you draw this being zero and you draw 40 degrees down from the satellite and then that comes down to the earth. so 40 degrees and then you draw a circle at 40 degrees from the satellite, that's going to tell you where these arcs are. and then the radar -- or excuse me, the doppler effect is telling you how far from that it is. so you've got this information. you've got that information. now you can plot out where that aircraft went based on how short or long these distances were. >> and bottom line, david -- >> this is extremely important. >> and bottom line, this is really starting to give us a hint of how they've reached some of their conclusions which is very helpful, which has been lacking. as we were talking, david, i think we had another map that i want to pull up. and i want to get your take on it, miles. we can throw that back up. this is another map that they have just released. and i'm seeing this for the first time as well. pardon me. so i'm going to walk into this map. miles, what do you see? i see a whole lot of timestamps, and i'm not understanding why. >> while you were talking -- not
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that your conversation wasn't stimulating, but i was looking at this -- it's really interesting because it shows the exact points at which -- they painted it with radar. you see at 1722, upper right, last civil radar point. and then it goes updated last defense radar point at 18:22 is all the way far left there. and then it shows this turn, which it doesn't indicate it's being painted by radar, but it shows that southerly turn there which it's unclear to me what they're using to derive that except maybe they're juxtaposing against the inmarsat. >> yeah then the pings come into play, maybe. >> right. go to the bottom. it's more clearly stated there. three-speeds that they used, speeds and altitudes range, differentials to come up with these potential locations for search. >> uh-huh. >> 332 knots, 344 knots, 350 knots. and go to page 3 now. if you could.
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and you'll see -- you'll see where that leads you. if you use those three-speed equations with an altitude of 30,000 feet or in one case they measure it at 15,000 feet. i don't know where they came up with these speeds and altitudes, but i think what they're basica altitude which is red-line speed, which is how fast you want to fly the airplane given the altitude. they've got 30,000 feet. they've got 15,000 feet. and they have 3,000 feet. so red-line speed for those three altitudes. and that's what gives you red, yellow and green boxes. the highest probability area, which is where the search is occurring, assumes 323 knots, a range of 2,700 nautical miles and 30,000 feet. so they've determined that -- you know, we've heard so much about altitude. they've decided that this altitude and speed is the
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perfect equation which puts us on the spot where, number one, the last inmarsat ping is located, and number two, the pings -- and sorry to confuse you using ping twice -- >> that's okay. >> inmarsat handshake, we'll say. and then the pings from the black box is in that same location. >> that's why we've got this highest probability area. >> exactly. >> we've heard angus houston use that terminology a lot. so i assume that is why he's using the term highest probability area. i've heard him use that over and over whenever he's spoken to the media. question on the altitude that you bring up. the altitude has been kind of a bit of a wild card throughout, i think. >> to say the least, yes. >> to say the least. especially in the northern part. in the northern part of the route, kind of a little earlier on, were they at 35,000? were they at 12,000? do the maps tell us, confirm any of that for us in regard to that? >> well, here's what you have to understand. the best military radars that
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are capable of identifying altitude, you can go back to page 2 if you want. we can talk about this. >> okay. >> the best military radars in the world, you know, the u.s. do-line radars, if you will, are pretty much plus or minus 3,000 feet or so. >> so not so accurate. >> not so accurate. now, you have to assume, frankly, that the radar system, the military radar systems in both malaysia and indonesia, you know, they're not prime for you know, some sort of cold war threat here. and so their accuracy, once that transponder is turned off -- and remember, the transponder is what sends to radar, it amplifies -- it provides information to the blip, tells you where the aircraft is relative to the ground. when that gets turned off, all you have is the blip. you have two dimensions instead of three. and so that's why we begin all this wild stock because frankly either their radar is not good even when it's tuned up, or it's not properly maintained. and so that's why all these altitude numbers we've been talking about i would heavily
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discount. >> well, at least now we are just beginning to understand the most basic information that they are basing all of their assumptions on and why they believe that the plane has ended up in the southern part of the indian ocean, and that's why in that highest probability area for the first time we're getting a little window into the analysis, this complex analysis that has been going on with these high-level groups in australia, in malaysia. miles, stick with us. david, stick with us. we have a lot to go through. we're really just scratching the surface. we've got a lot of information. thank goodness we have some of the smartest people here to help us. coming up, we'll continue to go through this report. richard quest has new information about that four-hour gap he was talking about from when the plane disappeared until the search, the real rescue effort, was launched. we'll be right back. frequent heartburn? the choice is yours. chalky. not chalky. temporary. 24 hour. lots of tablets.
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>> let's have the documents that have been given to us in the last 20 minutes. we have the preliminary report, the basic bare bones, this is what happened. we also have a tick tock. 20 minutes ago i said we needed it. now we have the tick tock. what did air traffic control actually say? we have a seating plan. which of the poor passengers was sitting in which part of the aircraft? we have details on the cargo manifest. those mangosteens. >> lithium batteries. >> lithium batteries. who was shipping what, where, when and how and how they were all shipped. important information. and crucial maps. >> that's going to be most important. we want to bring in our guys for it as well. but we also have the real clean audio of the cockpit as well now, right? because we had only heard it through the speakerphone that was being played for families. >> correct. >> so you're able to get a sense
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of tone. you're getting a sense of that ambient energy that was going on in the cockpit which would be relevant in assessing what's going on. >> it's not the cockpit voice recorder, obviously. >> right. >> it is the air traffic control recording. >> right. >> between ho chi minh, kuala lumpur and the cockpit. >> but that matters. >> yes. >> because within less than ten minutes after that conversation, something very dramatic happened. >> it all happened. >> so do we have david and miles? can we bring them in so everybody can point out what matters? all right, fellas. good. it's good to have the band together. let's look at this first map. and richard, you take the lead on this. and then fellas, you weigh in on what you want us to focus on. what do we now know from a hard data standpoint of what they understand about what happened? >> okay. let's follow this through. here's the plane. it leaves kuala lumpur and it goes up to the last civil radar point. what this now tells us is the last transmission from the automatic reporting system is at
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17:06. this is all, by the way, in universal time. this is the way it's all been done. 17:06. the last civil radar point is at 17:22. that's the last time that the plane is being tracked officially when it's handed over from one to the next. >> now, for contexcontext, when the last conversation with the cockpit happen? >> that happens here. >> okay. >> that happens here. >> this is that calm, completely unimpressive, unextraordinary conversation of them just handing off and saying good night. >> that's the famous good night malaysia 370. that is when whoever's in control of the plane is told contact ho chi minh. >> miles, richard will get us to the next point of interest from your perspective, miles. what do you think? >> well, a couple of things. it appears there was about a 16-minute period of time as to -- 17? is that right?
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>> 17, between the handover when they last saw on the -- it's -- >> i'm sorry, 22 being the last civil radar point. 16 or 17 minutes to me before ho chi minh city first inquired about mh370. while they do not release the ho chi minh city side of the equation, there is, as richard's been pointing out, a very detailed time line as to what was going on between the two air traffic control centers. there's also this interesting point that malaysian airlines ops indicated to kuala lumpur air traffic control that the aircraft was in cambodian airspace. that one i can't -- richard, do you have any thoughts on that one? and they actually queried phnom penh to check further with a supervisor. >> this is fascinating. fascinating, miles. >> what was that all about? why would malaysian airlines ops have that supposition? i don't know where that came from. david, you got any on that one? >> yeah. i do.
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because phnom penh, remember, if you're going to turn around to go to a maintenance base, that's where you go. >> right. >> so to me the reason for that turnaround has something to do with maintenance. people say they're not going directly towards phnom penh, they're going around. so if you're coming around, that's where it would put you. so you come down across the island where they had that last ping before it went down to 5,000 feet or below. that's where you would make your turn to come back around to connect with the bottom near kuala lumpur. >> all right. here's -- >> miles -- >> richard -- david, miles, richard, always keep in mind, you know much more about this and have sophistication than at home they're not having. so let's keep it very simple. >> right. >> you're talking about who monitored what and then told whom? >> so what we have here is kuala lumpur basically being told by malaysian airlines that they believe that the plane has received information that it's in cambodian airspace.
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but this is the one and only -- the first time we've ever heard this. i think we're going to have to put it as a red herring because what happens, this happens at 2:03. the plane goes missing at 1:38. >> but richard, at item 9 on this, 2:15, it indicates that the kuala lumpur air traffic control watch supervisor queried malaysian airlines ops, which is the airline operations desk, and informed that the flight was able to exchange signals with the flight and was flying in cambodian airspace. but none of that is reflected on the very map that they released. i'm trying to figure out this inconsistency. >> what this document shows is at 2:03, cambodia is first mentioned. and at 2:15, we hear cambodia mentioned again. and this is the four-hour gap, by the way. this is what happened. >> it's the beginning of it. >> yeah. it's pretty much all of it. it goes from 1:38 all the way to 5:40. what it tells -- oops. excuse me. >> that's all right. >> what it tells me is it's the
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classic, classic confusion that happens in these situations. "a" says to "b," have you seen the plane? "b" says to "d," where's that plane? "d" says back to "ai i thought you saw it. by the way, have you still not seen it? and this goes on for hours. >> right. let's break down what this conversation means to regular people. david, when it says watch supervisor queried malaysia airlines ops who informed that mh370 was able to exchange signals with the flight and flying in cambodian airspace, mh370 is the plane, what's the difference between the plane and the flight? >> well, it's important to point out that the "a" cars, remember it's sending information to ops. communications is communicating
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with the airplane digitally. not necessarily through voices. it's sending that information up to the acars and back down to ops. ops is saying we think it's in cambodian airspace. that doesn't mean it knows that it is. that means is we expect it to be there. >> and at 2:18, kuala lumpur queries if the plane is supposed to be going through cambodian airspace. ho chi minh says it wasn't. ho chi minh checked. cambodia advised. backwards and forwards. ho chi minh confirms and onwards and backwards and forwards. >> can we say it didn't go that way? it can be ruled out. and now we know why it can be ruled out. >> this is just stuff. this is the air traffic control noise. >> so that's what we can rule out. what do we now have to start about ruling in? what do we learn from what they see here on hard data points? >> so the plane crosses -- goes over this over the country. >> we know that happens. >> but looking back, and this is the -- this is the smoking gun,
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i've always said it from day one. if you look back in the four-hour gap, there seems to be almost no moment when the military is asked, did you see -- have you seen anything? and the military is -- go ahead. >> go, miles. >> i have -- go to item 16, richard. this is at 0330. this is interesting. and it indicates here that the malaysian airlines operations center called up air traffic control in kuala lumpur and said that all this information that they had previously been giving them about possibly going to phnom penh and into cambodia was based on flight projection and not reliable for aircraft positioning. so here's what happens in my view just off the top is the whole red herring in the fray, as richard's been well describing the confusion, the fog of war, if you will, about it going over into cambodian
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airspace probably is why we had such a delay in any sort of response in the way of military fighters, intercepts and so forth. they thought it was in cambodia. they didn't know where it was. and for some reason malaysian airlines ops was telling them call phnom penh, we think it's in cambodia, and it wasn't. >> and obviously for reasons that we don't understand, the military, which is actually looking at this plane in realtime -- >> we know that it is? >> yes, the prime minister admitted it in the interview with me. the prime minister said there was a radar operator. i know believe it's a junior radar operator who was looking at it during the night. he saw -- they saw it going across, and that radar operator believed it was a civil plane. and therefore -- but the military was not part of that discussion. and the military either wasn't monitoring or it's not their standard operating procedure. so as the plane goes across malaysia, nobody -- they're all thinking it's somewhere out
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there. nobody thinks to say -- >> but again, we now know that there's good reason, from the military and the civil side, to know that it did go this way. and everything keeps making sense. the cambodia does not make sense, so forget it. >> here's the really worrying thing. cambodia or otherwise, they still didn't know where the plane was, and they still didn't have contact with the aircraft. and that goes on for many, many more hours. particularly if you look at the hours from 2:00, 3:00 and 4:00. there were whole hours when nothing happens. 3:30, k.l. inquired if ho chi minh had checked with the next station. 3:56, k.l. queried malaysia airlines. 4:25, ho chi minh. these are half-hour blocks of a plane that's been missing for several hours, and nobody is thinking, we'd better sound the alarm. >> and get this, though. the last item, richard, quick point, item 24. the first mention of search and rescue comes at 6:14.
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6:14. and kuala lumpur air traffic control queries ho chi minh city and asks if a search and rescue had been activated. where would the plane be at that point, richard, you know? >> you're thinking my thoughts, miles. >> but hold the thoughts and here's why. we're going to take a break. when we come back, there's good and bad reason for why they were communicating and not being able to understand where the plane was, and then there becomes new data that they'll have that gives them their different search coordinates. we'll take you through all of it right after the break. ups is a global company, but most of our employees
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>> all right. that is the actual cockpit recording of what was going on between air traffic control and the pilots of malaysian flight 370. we have as part of the new report that malaysian authorities just released, the actual sound which will be helpful in assessing what the mood was in there at the last time they had communication. we have our experts here, richard quest, miles o'brien. we have david soucie going through this. the commercial break is helpful because it allows us to keep reading through parts of the data. where we had worked through so far is that we know for a fact, the last point that there was communication. we understand now why they know that the plane crossed malaysia. we have a big question about why there was such poor communication in finding where this plane was for some four hours, and that takes us to where we were in our analysis. it's now four hours. they still don't know where the plane is. then what happens? >> right. so let's jump right the way down
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to how they believe where the plane finally ended up. forget about all this stuff up here. we move further down. this is the route of the aircraft. as they believe. guys, jump in at any stage. the plane comes down this routing. >> how do we know? >> inmarsat data. >> the pings. >> well, because we've got pings under water, let's call them handshakes. >> handshakes. >> to be clear. these are the six -- >> richard? >> yes. david. >> yeah, i was just going to say, it might be easier to at least in my mind, which is probably different than most, but is the 40-degree mark from the satellite gives us the arc in the first place, and then we use the inmarsat data to go backwards and track that out. see what i'm saying? >> okay. >> why does 40-degree angle matter from the satellite? why is that relevant? >> because that gives you a cone. if you look 40 degrees down from the satellite, it gives you that arc all the way around the
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satellite, 360 degrees. so that's what draws the initial arc. then the inmarsat data verifies where on the arc it is. >> i know little about this satellites and arcs, david. it is the last transmission when it was on the arc of 40 degrees from the satellite. so that is the last bit down here where it's on 40 degrees. >> that's right. >> i hope we're not confusing people with all this. for those of us who didn't do so well in math. >> how could we not? >> basically, the inmarsat circles, what we're drawing, all they're doing is measuring the time it takes for the signal to travel from the plane to the saddle light. and as it moves, that changes by milliseconds. that's how you get those circles on the map. and that's all we're talking about here, all the other stuff you don't need to -- you don't have to understand the math. >> right. what i'm saying is -- miles, you're making the right point because the perspective is what matters here. we're just saying i don't care about the angle or anything
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else. i'm just saying from the new data that we have, there's now a basis for confidence in what they did in terms of plotting data points of where this plane might be. that's the point that we now know. so the question is, where did that lead us? >> because what they had to do, they knew the distance from the satellite. what they had to do was work out the potential destination bearing in mind speed and altitude. >> right. >> and here we have, for example, speed 323 knots, 30,000 feet. i'm not sure why at the bottom we've got 350 knots, 3,000 feet. >> richard, i think what they did, they picked three altitudes and chose the red line speed at those three altitudes. that's basically what they used. low, medium and high altitude. >> and miles, that explains -- correct me if i'm wrong -- why these lines go from being very tight to then they start to broaden out like fingers because they started working off different assumptions? >> yes. >> all they're trying to do is find out the range. >> okay. >> and that's the key. they know the circle.
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but where on the circle is it? that's a function of the range of the aircraft. that has a lot to do with the altitude and speed. they know how much fuel was on board, but they didn't know the altitude and the speed. they put in three factors, low altitude, medium altitude and a high altitude, and they chose the speed which is what they call red line which is what you would safely fly at those altitudes. and that's why we have those three boxes. that really gives us an idea of how they came up with those boxes. we supposed that before, but we never had the detail on how they came up with those locations. >> all right. and then lastly, as we get into why we understand why this happened, the big questions, richard, what do you believe are the big questions that remain now after seeing what's here? >> after seeing what's in this report, the biggest question still comes back up to this area. it still goes back to those hours when the plane went missing. this will not answer what happened in the cockpit. but it will answer why nobody saw the plane going across the
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country, why nobody did anything about it, and after air france, why it did take 2:00 onwards, four hours in total, say two hours being charitable to do anything about it. >> now, there's more to go through because there's the cargo manifest, the passenger logs. there's a lot of information in the appendices that came out after. more information after the initial report. we'll keep going through that and take a break right now, though. kate? we'll have much more on the breaking news on this report about flight 370. a lot to work through. more than maybe some had expected we were going to get this morning. stick with us on that. and also, the latest on the severe storms slamming the east coast. what to expect today when "newsroom with carol costello" starts right after this break. ortho crime files. reckless seeding. a backyard invasion. enter homeowner, and ortho weed b gon max. kills weeds without harming innocent lawns. guaranteed. ortho weed b gon max. get order. get ortho®.
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